Monday, February 25, 2019

A new Twist to "Gender Wars"

Holly came from Miami F.L.A.
Hitch-hiked her way across the U.S.A.
Plucked her eyebrows on the way
Shaved her legs and then he was a she
She said, hey babe, take a walk on the wild side,
Said, hey honey, take a walk on the wild side

Lou Reed



My last blog post with its' biblical reference might have been a bit disjointed for most of my readers, my friend John DelNegro who provided the inspiration for today's rather long blog commented (I think) via a simple text after reading it:

"Earth to Jim"



How many of you are aware the newest frontier  on gender is not  men versus women nor even "gay vs straight" but Transgender versus(?) well maybe everybody !  A few posts back I "touched" on the Transgender issue with my "Maria Lanz" post.

Well John had suggested a topic of "Where Sports and Culture Cross" and then lo and behold came up with a good one specifically one prodded by a recent WSJ article.  (Note 
I have a PDF copy of the entire article for any who are interested meanwhile  "bold italics"  are items lifted directly from the article.)
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"Martina Navratilova’s Girl Power"

by William McGurn

The tennis legend says allowing transgender women in women’s sports is ‘cheating.’


Are athletes who are born male but identify as female cheating girls? Tennis legend Martina Navratilova says they are.
“To put the argument at its most basic,” she wrote this weekend in an op-ed for the Sunday Times of London, “a man can decide to be female, take hormones if required by whatever sporting organisation is concerned, win everything in sight and perhaps earn a small fortune, and then reverse his decision and go back to making babies if he so desires.”
Her conclusion is blunt: “It’s insane and it’s cheating. I am happy to address a transgender woman in whatever form she prefers, but I would not be happy to compete against her. It would not be fair.”..................................
Ms. Navratilova’s argument comes at a moment when institutions from high schools to state legislatures are wrestling with the real-world implications of equal access for transgender people. When the issue first arose, the most heated arguments were over single-sex locker rooms, rest rooms and college dorms. But the front lines have now shifted to sports—and girls’ sports in particular...........

In June, two transgender high-schoolers in Connecticut made national headlines when they dominated the girls’ state track competition for the second year in a row. Such victories underscore Ms. Navratilova’s argument that if biological men are allowed to compete in women’s sports, girls will not be the winners.
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(Brief Comment-I looked up Connecticut's Education policies on this issue and I will share in full below, but to address Martina's concern directly, about "men" winning competitions as "women" and then going back to making babies,  here are the Connecticut State School Guidelines;

 Consistency of Expression Not Required: While consistency and unifor assertion may be a way for an individual to indicate their gender identity, this is not a requirement that an individual consistently and uniformly assert or express themselves as “male” or “female.” A student who consistently asserts their identity as gender fluid may express that gender in ways which conform with more than one gender, even from one day to the next.)
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So it may be that Martina may have some very valid concerns about the "fluidity" of gender ID, at least in Connecticut high school sports!)

Back to the Journal piece:
This in turn has led to a curious development: Some of the most pointed criticism of allowing transgender women to compete in women’s sports isn’t coming from the culture warriors on the right, much as they might be in sympathy. A good part is coming from those like Ms. Navratilova, a longtime champion of gay rights who came out in 1981 and whose Twitter feed is filled with leftist sentiment on everything from Donald Trump and climate change to guns.
Andrew Sullivan noted this surreal alliance in a recent essay for New York magazine headlined “The Nature of Sex.” Mr. Sullivan’s particular focus was the proposed Equality Act—which would add “gender identity” to the classes protected by the 1964 Civil Rights Act—but his main point about the implications of ignoring biological reality dovetails with Ms. Navratilova’s argument about sports.
Once biological reality is pushed aside, Mr. Sullivan writes, it becomes hard to define exactly what a woman really is. “The core of the traditional gay claim,” he writes, “is that there is indeed a very big difference between male and female, that the difference matters, and without it, homosexuality would make no sense at all.” Not only that, if male and female are simply social constructs, the definitions that then prevail “must rely on stereotypical ideas of what gender expression means,” such as wearing dresses or nail polish. So he salutes the courage of gay women such as Ms. Navratilova who are attacked for speaking up.
"In the end, if the sports world can’t distinguish between girls and boys, the whole reason for women’s sports disappears. 

Bully for Ms. Navratilova for her willingness to insist on the distinction.

End of article.

Wow some interesting "Observations" about "Gender' ID"  and it's impacts on both Homosexual Identity and the potential impact on girls sports!!

Now while it may or may not be true that this issue will become more widespread and contentious I went ahead and looked on a state by state basis how Educators are treating school sports competition (please forgive my graphic being a bit disjointed it was a difficult cut and paste of the legend!)
A State by State Graphic on Transgender High School Sports 



Green-see above
Yellow see above
Red-  Discriminatory Must have Birth Certificate or gender surgery and hormone treatment
Blue-No Policy
Now some further "Observations" of my own:
1.  I never was blessed with a "gender at birth"(to be PC) daughter (my Faithful and Obedient Companion often says I was actually blessed by this!).  However, many of my friends and relatives were so blessed.  I know that many of their kids played  Field Hockey, Girls Softball, even girls rowing.  I wonder what happens in the not to distant future if schools universally adopt Connecticut's Position or if the Equal Rights Act mandates "Transgender" rights in a similar way nationally.  No doubt some or even many "biological females" can and will be able to compete but do we all really believe that males would not dominate most sports???

2.  Barbara's Grand Niece and Nephew and I got into an informal conversation about their high school a few months back.  We talked about "clique's". They brought up one group as "transgender". Their "impression" was there a number of  students who are in fact either transgender, or likely just believe it is "hip" to use different gender "ID".  I am not claiming the numbers are significant, nor do I "know for sure" if they are not truly "transgender" but I cannot help but believe it is not all "real" gender dysphoria.   If the stats from Wikipedia (Footnote 1 below) are even close, then"true" transgender student numbers in High Schools of about 2,000 students would range from 1 person (Belgium and Netherlands study) , to at most 10 total (based on the Massachusetts study).  Either way, statistically it seems highly unlikely that two "biologically" male students that also identify as female, could end up on the same high school track team,  in the same year. But if they did I can see how they might very well win State Titles. I guess anything is possible!
3.  Most disconcerting to me is the continual delegation (and erosion) of "parental" guidance in child rearing to "THE STATE" even at the elementary school level. (See my footnote 2 sample state guidelines below if you would like to see examples) Certainly minor kids should have parental involvement in these decisions.  I dread it even more when I hear candidates professing that we must have universal state provided "early" childcare. I can see the debate about state versus parental involvement shifting downward to kids under 5! 
4.  Now for my final "Observation" which may at first seem disjointed but relates to the issue of bureaucratic parenting.   For those inclined to think "government" bureaucrats know best let me relay a great example (I admit anecdotal)with Healthcare. 
This past weekend we hosted a little gathering which included two final year med students.  I asked them about a Medicare survey my Faithful and Obedient Companion was recently asked (twice) to complete on her family doctor. She refused to complete it because  "nobody should come between her and her physician not even the government, and my doctor herself should ask!"

Their  response? This is a big deal...physician compensation for medicare is based on results of these surveys. They then told us about a recent "issue" that was just "fixed".  The "issue"? For years there was a question on the survey, "How well does your Doctor help manage your "Pain"?  Why was it fixed? Because  physicians were getting better marks (and higher reimbursements) for prescribing Opiates!

Ponder this.  How many people's lives (or deaths) were ultimately affected by this brilliant government bureaucratic practice? 

Well we now seem to far along some serious bureaucratic "Parent versus Government"  control on these issues.  In my opinion this has occurred without a lot of  open  and Non-PC dialogue  on scientific biology versus radical views on gender fluidity.  I cannot help but  wonder what this may do to an entire generation of young people,  and I am thinking of more than just women's sports.


With that I bid you.
Adieu

PS Thanks John..  I expect you to briefly summarize this stuff below for all of those who do not want to have their eyes glaze over!


Footnote 1. From Wikipedia Epidemiology

Estimated rates of those with a transgender identity range from a lower bound of 1:2000 (or about 0.05%) in the Netherlands and Belgium[38] to 0.5% of Massachusetts adults.[39] From a national survey of high-school students in New Zealand, 8,500 randomly selected secondary school students from 91 randomly selected high schools found 1.2% of students responded "yes" to the question "Do you think you are transgender?".[40]These numbers are based on those who identify as transgender. It is estimated that about 0.005% to 0.014% of people assigned male at birth and 0.002% to 0.003% of people assigned female at birth would be diagnosed with gender dysphoria,[disputed ] based on 2013 diagnostic criteria, though this is considered a modest underestimate.[41] Research indicates people who transition in adulthood are up to three times more likely to be male assigned at birth, but that among people transitioning in childhood the sex ratio is close to 1:1.[42
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Footnote 2 State by state guidelines:
From Connecticut School Guidelines:
Consistency of Expression Not Required: While consistency and uniform assertion may be a way for an individual to indicate their gender identity, this is not a requirement that an individual consistently and uniformly assert or express themselves as “male” or “female.” A student who consistently asserts their identity as gender fluid may express that gender in ways which conform with more than one gender, even from one day to the next.
 • Documentation Not Required: Students are not required to produce identification documents that reflect their gender identity in order for the school to treat such students consistent with their gender identity. Requiring such identification — which students are often unable to obtain — has the practical effect of limiting or denying students equal access to educational programming and activities. In general, schools must treat students consistent with the student’s stated gender identity even if their education records or identification documents indicate a different sex. The school’s obligation to treat a student consistent with the student’s gender identity or expression does not require notice from the parent or guardian.
At the same time, the fact that there is a dispute between a minor student and parent/guardian concerning the student’s gender identity indicates a need for counseling or other supports to assist the family and ensure the well-being of the student. In these situations, the school should consult with legal counsel and relevant counseling staff to reach an appropriate outcome. Pending resolution of the issue, staff should informally refer to the student in accordance with the student’s preference at school and refer the family to appropriate counseling/support services. 


 Colorado:

From Colorado School Guidelines:

Anti-Discrimination Law

Colorado follows state anti-discrimination and civil rights laws and guidance.  In 2008, Colorado passed a law (S.B. 08-200) expanding prohibitions against discrimination.  The law calls out the need to protect all regardless of “disability, race, creed, color, sex, sexual orientation, marital status, national origin, or ancestry” in all places of public accommodation.  This law defines sexual orientation as “a person’s orientation toward heterosexuality, homosexuality, bisexuality or transgender status or another person’s perception thereof.” 
In addition, the Colorado Civil Rights Commission issued rules (3 CCR 708-1) that state “All [public] covered entities shall allow individuals the proper use of gender-segregated facilities that are consistent with their gender identity.  Gender-segregated facilities include but are not limited to, restrooms, locker rooms, dressing rooms and dormitories.”  The term “gender identity” is in turn defined by the rules as follows:  “Gender identity” means an innate sense of one’s own gender.” 
A Colorado court case in 2013 supported the right of a 6 year old transgender student in Fountain School district to use the restroom that aligned with her gender identity.

On Parents involvement:
 "All situations with transgender or gender nonconforming students should be handled on a case-by-case basis. To create a safe and supportive environment for the student, the school should hold a meeting with the student (and parent if involved in the process) to develop a plan that addresses the student’s desires and concerns."
   
New Jersey:
1. Definitions A safe and supportive environment within a school begins with understanding and respect. Students, teachers, and administrators should be provided with common terminology associated with gender identity. Although these terms are commonly used by advocacy and human rights groups, students may prefer other terms to describe their gender identity, appearance, or behavior. • Gender Identity means a person's internal, deeply held sense of gender. All people have a gender identity, not just transgender people. For transgender people, the individual’s internal gender identity is not the same as the gender assigned at birth. • Gender Expression means external manifestations of gender, expressed through a person's name, pronouns, clothing, haircut, behavior, voice, and/or body characteristics. Society identifies these cues as masculine and feminine, although what is considered masculine or feminine changes over time and varies by culture. • Assigned Sex at Birth (ASAB) refers to the biological sex designation recorded on a person’s birth certificate upon the initial issuance of that certificate, should such a record be provided at birth. • Gender Assigned at Birth refers to the gender a child is assigned at birth or assumed to be, based on their biological sex assigned at birth. • Sexual Orientation describes a person's enduring physical, romantic, and/or emotional attraction to another person. Gender identity and sexual orientation are not the same. A transgender person may be straight, lesbian, gay, bisexual, or asexual. For example, a person who transitions from male to female and is attracted solely to men may identify as a straight woman. • Transgender is a term for an individual whose gender identity and/or gender expression differs from those typically associated with the sex and gender assigned at birth. • Transition is the process by which a transgender person recognizes that their authentic gender identity is not the same as the gender assigned at birth, and develops a more affirming gender expression that feels authentic. Some individuals socially transition, for example, through dress, use of names and/or pronouns. Some individuals may undergo a physical transition, which might include hormone treatments and surgery. School district personnel should avoid the phrase “sex change,” as it is an inaccurate description of the transition process; the process is more accurately described as “gender-confirming.” • LGBTQ is an acronym for “lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer/questioning.” • Gender nonconforming describes a person whose gender expression does not conform to the gender expectations of their family or community. Gender nonconformity is not necessarily an indication that a youth is transgender; many non-transgender youth do not conform to stereotypical expectations. • Gender Expansive/Gender Diverse/Gender Fluid/Gender Non-Binary/Agender/Gender Queer are terms that convey a wider, more flexible range of gender identity and/or expression than typically associated with the binary gender system. For example, students who identify as gender queer or gender fluid might not identify as boys or girls; for these students, the non-binary gender identity functions as the student’s gender identity. • Cisgender refers to individuals whose gender identity, expression, or behavior conforms with those typically associated with their sex assigned at birth. GLAAD, The Human Rights Campaign, and PFLAG also provide comprehensive reference guides on terminology. (See Section 8, Resources) It is recommended that school personnel discuss with the student the terminology and pronouns each student has chosen. 2. Student-Centered Approach A school district shall accept a student’s asserted gender identity; parental consent is not required. Further, a student need not meet any threshold diagnosis or treatment requirements to have his or her gender identity recognized and respected by the district, school or school personnel.










12 comments:

  1. My singular contemplation- why is it that so many people are unhappy with their identity and lives, at way too young of an age? It is terribly sad that all of this happens in the best place on earth. Maybe parenting has completely failed? Maybe communities? Maybe families or other social groups. Maybe it’s not a failure but 'evolution? We humans maybe are asking the wrong questions, or have too much time on our hands to publicize this so much. Why is this dyphoria so prevalent? Now? Or is it just the 'latest' buzz? I have no answers, just questions.

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  2. Geez. Tough issue Jim. I think the sports question is fairly straightforward - how about but bathrooms ?????

    While we at it how do we feel about girls in Boy Scouts.

    Most of these issues are beyond my understanding.

    P

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    1. Funny Phil,

      Depending on what side of the issue you are on will likely predetermine your opinion.

      I think I read recently that the first group of girls was in a girl only troop. Hardly integrated? Apparently many who join do so to seek "eagle scout" perceived as a good thing to have in college search??? Beats me. You and I conversed on this and it is "sad" to lose "male bonding" aspects.

      As I wrote this blog it reminded me of the point I made to "Diversity Dean" at Lafayette when we were asked to consider recolonizing". I asked "what if a women wanted to join our fraternity some day" No answer given. I should have said a transgendered man.

      These are interesting times ...I do not believe in pigeonholing people. I could be pigeonholed however, I believe that the "science" of Biology favors real differences between men and women. (like xy and xx chromosomes)The science of "Psychology" does studies like those on sexual satisfaction from sexting, based on survey's I am very unsure of their input.... I would go tend to favor xy versus xx science.

      My father was one who kept it simple...his answer on this type of issue "I don't go for that".

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  3. A few things...

    1. Here is an update to your track story. https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/feb/24/terry-miller-andraya-yearwood-transgender-sprinter/
    The article I think does a decent job of attempting to communicate both sides.
    2. I know that people like Martina navratilova and others are now being accused of being "trans-phobic". I still can not get over the endless PC that stifles opinion in the current climate. Discussions of fairness need to be had around this conversation. Yes - transgender people should have the same opportunity to compete and play sports and build the camaraderie that comes with it. But do we do that at the expense of traditional cisgender girls? Will Ella have an opportunity to compete in softball when she gets older or will she possibly get cut from a team because of a transgender peer who has an obvious advantage? Tough decisions...but people who voice a different opinion should not be ostracized for having a different position than yours.
    3. I dont know if you saw the article on the Colorado wrestler who forfieted to a female wrestler to give her a red place finish. Another good read on gender equality and sports. Props to the wrestler for his reasons behind not wrestling a girl, but I cannot tell whether it is truly a good thing or not. https://www.denverpost.com/2019/02/23/colorado-state-wrestling-tournament-colorado-springs-wrestler-girl-forfeit/

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    1. Sorry for deleting and reposting...I just wanted to edit.

      I know this means more emails guys! SOOOO Sorry

      Thanks James for the updates. I thought of Ella as I wrote this.

      I actually remain a little less concerned about "the sports competition aspects" for now. Most competitors (both men and women actually) would prefer to test their worth against the toughest competition. Most men therefore would likely shy away for moving into a "female" division particularly in scholastic competition. Female competitors also "like to win" but all competitors need to think they have a chance. It is these factors that would likely "slow" the march towards the end of female sports (I can tell you are "modern" what the heck is "cisgender")
      BUT to Martina's point which is a good one. Use golf... If we extend civil rights to transgender's to compete such Pro sports would have a new dynamic.
      How about this dynamic:
      Competitors like Rickie Fowler or Tiger Woods etc. would likely stay in "Men's Division" .the reason- bigger purses. But I can easily see lower ranked (or brand new pros) doing some math and thinking...I could clean up on the women's tour even at lower purses..especially from those shorter tees ( I my try it with my Faithful and obedient Companion). Think of that.
      I believe this is areal a possibility in a world where a guy can claim I am a female today, then go back to being a male at the end of the season and going home to the wife and kids.. I will not be surprised if that happens.
      As I look at the PC stuff on this issue …who could deny that is exactly what gender activists have gotten into the dialog gender based on how you feel “today”.

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  5. Jim,
    I did not read the Washington Times Article but I did read the Denver Post. I also read Barbara’s blog response, which was thoughtfully written. I certainly have no answers and only questions like you friend Phil. But, I do say given today’s climate of #metoo, I believe what the wrestler did in backing out was prudent. Why risk having this, or some other woman 15-20 years from now coming back at you with the opportunity to cry assault? His reasons were certainly more noble at this juncture, but in todays world, whether it be in business or otherwise I would never be alone in a room with a woman acquaintance, not without a third party present. Now I realize there were many witnesses to this wrestling event but like most gender crossing lines who knows where it all will lead. As for our sprinters and track team as I am always reminded, we might be able to refer to ourselves by what we identify as, but there is that little thing called DNA that will always get in the way. To touch back on your original gender wars, it is not only Navratilova that is being accused to trans-phobia. A gay rights advocate has come out against the identification only process now that several women have come forward with rape accusations toward men who identified themselves as women. This apparently is a bigger problem than most of us know. Mostly the transgender identity has given males the opportunity to infiltrate women only areas and then reveal the predators they are. Who Knew?, but many in the LGB community are outraged by this situation and are being asked to silence their concerns. I know I have strayed afar from John’s request to look at where culture and sports collide, but I am still grabbling with the whole idea of where the culture is going. High School Wrestling and High School Track Teams are probably as good a place as any to spotlight these problems, but as Barb stated where and how are we to show our youth that they are perfect the way they are, and is dysphoria really as prevalent as we think or just another place that the liberal press and Hollywood types want us to believe it to be? According to gallup, 4 percent of the population states they are gay, but most adults believe that 25-30 percent of our population is gay. Why??? because that is what media and journalists want you to believe. Only 0.6 percent consider themselves transgender, but I would bet the average adult would quote statistics much higher than that. I believe this causes widespread experimentation in our youth. It makes them question their sexuality at a very young age. Certainly, as you stated, what are the chances two track stars are transgender in the same school? It is not something I have any answers for, but I can say it all makes me uncomfortable. I could be labeled homophobic or trans-phobic, because for me that implies fear. I am not afraid for me, but I must admit I am afraid for society in general. I am not sure we are improving the state of the human race by championing these causes, which is a far reach from tolerating others lifestyles. What a mess.
    ethel

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    1. As a school nurse over the years....how many transgender school students did you See?

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    2. Sure. Next time we chat I will have to talk about why my post won’t go. I write in the reply box, but than it just goes away when I hit submit? I saw few children that I felt may be gender “confused” but not true transgender. I would get so angry when my colleagues would label them with any type of gender assignment. I would not allow them to say to me things like “he/she is gay but they don’t know it yet”. Why would you label an adolescent? All adolescents struggle with sexuality. Let them work it out with loving parents and adults. Barb hit the nail on the head, our society encourages this confusion and to what avail.
      Love you.
      Ethel

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  6. I was advised by Ethel that she fried to post and it failed. Herpost above is courtesy of an an email she sent me and said I could post it. So I cut and paste.

    This seems to be a problem for Mr. DelNegro as well as he just this minute gave me the same story.....said he typed an extensive post that just disappeared!
    I apologize for all these Google issues...I have no clue why some can and cannot. However alternative hosting sites cost$$$ and I am leery of going down that path!
    I managed to post on Ethel's behalf....anyone else who has a problem wants to add a comment now or in the future send me via email and I will cut and past like Ethel's.

    John no worries if you do not feel like recreating..after all this was your topic in the first place!



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  7. Tough to find any easy answers on this topic. If my daughter had to pitch against a dominant transgender woman, I’d think it unfair...but I would tell her to walk her, like Barry Bonds. On the other hand, if I had a transgender child who wanted to compete I’d support that position. So long as they are abiding by the law, you love and protect your children no matter what. Thanks Jim for keeping us away from politics ��

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  8. Hi Whitey,
    Great thoughts, especially on Barry Bonds. It is a difficult issue, not easily addressed. Being self righteous on either side only makes solutions more difficult to achieve. Hmmm maybe subject of a future observation!

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